| Show me evidence of my having done any of these and I will gladly apologise. But you do not accept apologies, do you Honesty, unless someone surrenders all religious opinions and conforms to yours. You are beyond reason, because you are a liar who does not confront his own untruths. Where's the evidence that I "swear with regularity". There is none. Yet you will never acknowledge your sin. For you to say you have walked away from legalism into grace is a colossal joke, and I'm sure others know it too. You are two-fold more a Pharisee than ever you were in the Fellowship. I find you empty, sad, and not a nice person. You sum intellect consists of finger pointing at others. All of the points I made are novel to you Honesty. Yet you will not answer the simple question for to do so would condemn yourself. You are the worst kind of liar - the one who lies not only to others and ABOUT others, but also, apparently, unto himself. "Honesty". Irony. | ||||
Saturday, February 16, 2008
GIT will never apologize...and mean it
Friday, February 15, 2008
Thou monumental hypocrite!
Your posting history speaks of obsession. You follow me around this board like a psycho - that's bullying. Can you show me a post you have made where you demonstrated kindness to someone else on the TMB? No you can't. I've READ your 400+ posts and cannot find a single example.
The honest truth is that you're a monumental hypocrite, and an untruthful person who poses as the exemplar of high virtue.
You're fighting the demons in your own life on the TMB. Your professing family and friends probably don't interact with you in the way you'd like; you probably have strained relationships with them. So you spew your frustrations onto the TMB by targetting one person (me) to virtually the exclusion of all else.
You walked away from legalism into grace, yet you the most loathesome person I've ever had the misfortune to meet via to the TMB. I know I am by no means perfect, and I have confessed to that in the past and will do so again in the future. But you, my friend, have deep issues.
But I am happy to be the target in lieu of your real frustrations in life. Bring it on - take down the nasty, hateful, unloving, bulling, cruel, windbagging, emperor's footsoldier 2x2!
The honest truth is that you're a monumental hypocrite, and an untruthful person who poses as the exemplar of high virtue.
You're fighting the demons in your own life on the TMB. Your professing family and friends probably don't interact with you in the way you'd like; you probably have strained relationships with them. So you spew your frustrations onto the TMB by targetting one person (me) to virtually the exclusion of all else.
You walked away from legalism into grace, yet you the most loathesome person I've ever had the misfortune to meet via to the TMB. I know I am by no means perfect, and I have confessed to that in the past and will do so again in the future. But you, my friend, have deep issues.
But I am happy to be the target in lieu of your real frustrations in life. Bring it on - take down the nasty, hateful, unloving, bulling, cruel, windbagging, emperor's footsoldier 2x2!
Tuesday, February 12, 2008
Those ignorant exes!
Try actually moving your eyeballs across the screen. I wasn't the one who posted reams of guff about what a parenthesis is. I KNOW what a parenthesis is. And I am right on this issue. Regrettably, as I have pointed out in the past, the general ignorance among some exes is great, especially on educational issues. Apparently we have posters with a knowledge of punctuation symbology equivalent of a fourth former.
Monday, February 11, 2008
Exe-mentality and closed ears
You started listening with the exe-mentality, sifting through the words to glom onto anything that looked like judgement. Our perceptions are coloured by our biases. I find it strange that I can sit through a mission meeting and hear nothing but the glorification of Jesus, and I can talk to my sister or my mother abotu the wonderful things we have heard, and yet an exe can sit through the same meeting and hear nothing but "evil speakings". It is as if their ears are closed.
Those embittered exes!
How different from the embittered exes! (Exes remember, fall into several categories - not all are embittered, but some have fallen into this sin). The hate-filled ones who NEVER recommend people "going and seeing" for themselves, but who work actively to prevent people from going and hearing the gospel. People who brood over muck and are stuck, like a gramophone needle, on the same few notes. Read the testimonies of the exes - nothing about their mystic experience with Christ; just sad, hostile garbage. Belligerent, overgrown adolescents, so many of them.
Pump Suckers
Exes who suck from the sump pump in their spirituality have not found the truth. They have not discovered the mystic essence of the Faith. They have simply become obsessed with form, and are no more or less than modern incarnations of pharisaism.
Parenthetically Speaking...
Quotation marks ARE a form of parenthesis.
...referring to a word in quotation marks.
...referring to a word in quotation marks.
Wednesday, February 6, 2008
2x2 Exclusivity
1/10/08:
I am sorry to say this, but you are not my brother! I do not recognise anything discernably Christian in your posts; I do not recognise you as a follower of the teachings of the Bible. Just as the Mormon is not my brother; and the Roman Catholic is not my brother, so you are not my brother.
1/19/08:
In response to the following question "Do you believe you have to be a member of the Friends and Workers way in order to be saved?", GIT responded as follows:
Yes, it would be a wise choice. I do not see anything but a spirit of error in the churches of this world. It is not something that can be explained. It must be revealed. I believe the vast majority - perhaps even all - exes to be blinded by the "prince of the power of the air". They do not go out to all become Christians! The more I go on, the more I realise the truth of the Fellowship; the truth about Jesus and the Way to Heaven (in Christ, of course). The more I realise how wrong people have got it out in the world - with such a blustering confidence that many presume to speak even beyond what the scripture says. No, these things must be revealed! And those who have left the Fellowship do so because they "never were of us"; they were tares among the wheat; they never had this revelation given. The Workers are the ministers of the Most High God. The Friends are the People of God. With Christ Jesus over all, and in all.
1/23/08:
You ought to be very careful before speaking against the Workers. They are the Servants of the Most High God. To speak against a man of God is a grave offence.
1/31/08:
We speak of vision as relevation. When a person goes out of the Fellowship, they have truly lost the revelation. They have lost their vision.
2/1/08:
If you go out of the Fellowship, and abandon the true Gospel, think of what will happen to your soul. Out of the thousands of churches of man, where will you go for rest and peace? Out of the thousands of doctrines, and teachings, and ways out there - which will you choose? Out the the falsehood, how will you find any truth? Remember the Church - the Fellowship - has always presented you with the pure Gospel. You have not come in contact with the great confusion of the world!
I am sorry to say this, but you are not my brother! I do not recognise anything discernably Christian in your posts; I do not recognise you as a follower of the teachings of the Bible. Just as the Mormon is not my brother; and the Roman Catholic is not my brother, so you are not my brother.
1/19/08:
In response to the following question "Do you believe you have to be a member of the Friends and Workers way in order to be saved?", GIT responded as follows:
Yes, it would be a wise choice. I do not see anything but a spirit of error in the churches of this world. It is not something that can be explained. It must be revealed. I believe the vast majority - perhaps even all - exes to be blinded by the "prince of the power of the air". They do not go out to all become Christians! The more I go on, the more I realise the truth of the Fellowship; the truth about Jesus and the Way to Heaven (in Christ, of course). The more I realise how wrong people have got it out in the world - with such a blustering confidence that many presume to speak even beyond what the scripture says. No, these things must be revealed! And those who have left the Fellowship do so because they "never were of us"; they were tares among the wheat; they never had this revelation given. The Workers are the ministers of the Most High God. The Friends are the People of God. With Christ Jesus over all, and in all.
1/23/08:
You ought to be very careful before speaking against the Workers. They are the Servants of the Most High God. To speak against a man of God is a grave offence.
1/31/08:
We speak of vision as relevation. When a person goes out of the Fellowship, they have truly lost the revelation. They have lost their vision.
2/1/08:
If you go out of the Fellowship, and abandon the true Gospel, think of what will happen to your soul. Out of the thousands of churches of man, where will you go for rest and peace? Out of the thousands of doctrines, and teachings, and ways out there - which will you choose? Out the the falsehood, how will you find any truth? Remember the Church - the Fellowship - has always presented you with the pure Gospel. You have not come in contact with the great confusion of the world!
Truthfulness (or lack thereof)
1/24/08:
my real name, my family details, my country, my past history has all been plastered on the TMB by exes,
(FALSE)
my real name, my family details, my country, my past history has all been plastered on the TMB by exes,
(FALSE)
Personal attacks
1/6/08:
I just don't get some people. Some people are first class jerks.
---Very true.
1/6/08:
Your behaviour is wrong - simply wrong - and deeply immoral. Your attempt to blame others for your own inappropriate actions, and here, your attempt to do the liberal double-blind trick of justifying anti-social behaviour as "making a point", is simply not credible. You were not motivated by ideals; by morals; by virtue; by deep commitments to a faith. You were motivated by malice, opportunism, and cunning. If you have proven anything, it is that you are morally bankrupt. It is one thing to do sin, but it takes a brave and bold man to stand upright and say, "I have done wrong and I am sorry."
1/26/08:
What concerns me is the endless name-calling; and personal differences as centre stock. The calling people "idiots" for example. This is damaging behaviour. You will learn that in time.
---Who else would know better?
1/26/08:
You keep maintaining that I'm some kind of wanton, belligerent creep who goes about calling people names and being utterly anti-social - yet this is untrue. Like so many of your claims, you make a sweeping generalisation about me, without so much as a shred of proof and without any adequate explanation.
---Keep reading.
1/27/08:
You're such an idiot Frank.
1/28/08:
You're such an idiot, Frank.
1/29/08:
I've told Frank that I'm not playing this game of exchanging personal abuse anymore. Of course, if he was interested in reconciliation he could always answer my PM's. The fact he prefers a public display says something, I think....
2/1/08:
You're an idiot.
2/1/08:
I have challenged exes to defend their position, and they cannot. They resort to abuse - remember, abuse is the sign of a failed argument.
---Yes, we noticed.
2/3/08:
I don't like slinging mud. And I'm quite restrained.
I just don't get some people. Some people are first class jerks.
---Very true.
1/6/08:
Your behaviour is wrong - simply wrong - and deeply immoral. Your attempt to blame others for your own inappropriate actions, and here, your attempt to do the liberal double-blind trick of justifying anti-social behaviour as "making a point", is simply not credible. You were not motivated by ideals; by morals; by virtue; by deep commitments to a faith. You were motivated by malice, opportunism, and cunning. If you have proven anything, it is that you are morally bankrupt. It is one thing to do sin, but it takes a brave and bold man to stand upright and say, "I have done wrong and I am sorry."
1/26/08:
What concerns me is the endless name-calling; and personal differences as centre stock. The calling people "idiots" for example. This is damaging behaviour. You will learn that in time.
---Who else would know better?
1/26/08:
You keep maintaining that I'm some kind of wanton, belligerent creep who goes about calling people names and being utterly anti-social - yet this is untrue. Like so many of your claims, you make a sweeping generalisation about me, without so much as a shred of proof and without any adequate explanation.
---Keep reading.
1/27/08:
You're such an idiot Frank.
1/28/08:
You're such an idiot, Frank.
1/29/08:
I've told Frank that I'm not playing this game of exchanging personal abuse anymore. Of course, if he was interested in reconciliation he could always answer my PM's. The fact he prefers a public display says something, I think....
2/1/08:
You're an idiot.
2/1/08:
I have challenged exes to defend their position, and they cannot. They resort to abuse - remember, abuse is the sign of a failed argument.
---Yes, we noticed.
2/3/08:
I don't like slinging mud. And I'm quite restrained.
Political experience
3/21/01:
I have far and away more political experience than many people...I have a Doctorate in Political Science and been part of Government Committees and Comissions for the past 10 years. I have been a member of the Liberal party for 22 years and have been associated with the United Nations for almost as long.
I was sent to the Soviet Union after the collapse of communism to administer "Political Relief" as it was then called and remained there for 11 months helping to establish and coordinate the development of a Russian Federation, drafting constitutions and so on.
---This would make for a great story if it wasn't for the fact that Jason was about 6 years old when the USSR collapsed. To see more evidence of "Dr." Landless fictional creativity, visit this page.
I have far and away more political experience than many people...I have a Doctorate in Political Science and been part of Government Committees and Comissions for the past 10 years. I have been a member of the Liberal party for 22 years and have been associated with the United Nations for almost as long.
I was sent to the Soviet Union after the collapse of communism to administer "Political Relief" as it was then called and remained there for 11 months helping to establish and coordinate the development of a Russian Federation, drafting constitutions and so on.
---This would make for a great story if it wasn't for the fact that Jason was about 6 years old when the USSR collapsed. To see more evidence of "Dr." Landless fictional creativity, visit this page.
Educational Achievement
As one who holds a Doctorate in political science, holds office within a politically oriented committee and who has had prior experience with the function of administration - I believe I am well qualified to call myself a "politician". A politician, as seen above, does not need to be elected as you stated in your ignorance.
---Truth be told, GIT does not hold a doctoral degree, nor does he have any political experience. His place of employment, at the time of this writing, is a middle school (assuming he was telling the truth THIS time).
1/24/08:
It's called an intertextual allusion, or a metaphor. It comes in a package with an overgrown vocabulary.
---Truth be told, GIT does not hold a doctoral degree, nor does he have any political experience. His place of employment, at the time of this writing, is a middle school (assuming he was telling the truth THIS time).
1/24/08:
It's called an intertextual allusion, or a metaphor. It comes in a package with an overgrown vocabulary.
Attitude towards exes
1/19/08:
I have found remarkable inability of communication among the exes; and a significant unfamiliarity with the scriptures. It seems when you leave the Fellowship, it means you can give up reading the Bible.
1/24/08:
The VOT does not set people free to "go and serve and love the Lord" with joy, forgiveness and peace. The VOT tries to change people from the mind with bitterness and the wickedness of others. With hurt, and wrong, and evil. Is it any wonder that those who are made disciples through their efforts are so horrible and hideous. The VOT chains them to all the spiritual vices, which they feel JUSTIFIED in having.
The VOT is just another bitter screed from exes who are sitting in great darkness; "whom the god of this world hath blinded" so that they cannot recieve the truth.
Such a website is nothing more than a toilet into which the collective ex-2x2 anus may deposit its dark, fecal matter; theology devoid of goodness; love, peace, forgiveness and joy - absorbed by the fleshy intestine of bitterness.
1/25/08:
Underlying the TMB is a deep vein of relish that the Friends and Workers get hacked-and-slashed without reprieve. It amazes me to think there was a time when I felt any affection for the exes - the TMB however, has clarified the matter brilliantly: exes are, as we have been told, bitter folks.
1/26/08:
Hard as it is to believe, I think I'm actually in a better position to know whether I think freedom of speech is a nuisance than you are. I am the infallible expert when it comes to my own views. When I inform you that you are wrong on this issue; but when you persist that you are right, I think you lose a lot of credibility.
Your 300 posts, all of which fall into the same category; showing the same methodologies; and clustered around the same purpose of attacking individuals rather than discussing anything of substance, give me a powerful body of evidence upon which to base my knowledge.
I take one glance over the 300 odd posts you have contributed, not one of which was an original thought - all of which have been persecutory attacks. My only consolation is that sooner than later you will consume yourself.
2/3/08:
I am discussing this issue on a theological and philsophical (even ethical) basis. I don't know what you're doing, but feel as though your level of insight is a bit... well, economical.
2/1/08:
I have challenged exes to defend their position, and they cannot. They resort to abuse - remember, abuse is the sign of a failed argument.
2/5/08:
Well there's professing people and there's professing people. All the exes once professed. Now they are apostates.
What unmitigated tripe.
Don't try and assume virtues you don't possess - eg. "openness to reason".
2/7/08:
I have learned that interacting with many exes in a fair and rational way is impossible. They have too many emotional problems; a need for attention, power, revenge or self-confidence (take your pick) which can only be satisfied through pursuit of the Friends and the Workers under the guise of a holy crusade. Bringing any harm to us; unravelling our beliefs in any way; and getting anyone out of the Fellowship is the goal. But exes like Cherie Kropp \ Berry \ Whatever are in deep. Their activities are responsible for people becoming atheists and agnostics. And no matter how exes screech in ungodly and unrighteous indignation about this, it is true. And because it is true, they are most savage. The fruit of Cherie's work - and that of her disciples - is to send some people to a lost eternity. As for the rest who are allegedly converted to the "real Christ", their dearth of worthwhile fruits: forgiveness, love, joy and peace is a testimony to what they have been converted with. As some theologian (I forget which) once said, "What you convert them WITH, you convert them TO". And Cherie has converted many with a string of mockery, abuse, innuendo, muckraking and evil speakings. And it is to these things that her disciples have been converted. Cherie's shoes are dirty, and her hands are bloody. There is much she is responsible for, and she bears a heavy burden for her labour - the eternal souls of the (now) damned.
I have found remarkable inability of communication among the exes; and a significant unfamiliarity with the scriptures. It seems when you leave the Fellowship, it means you can give up reading the Bible.
1/24/08:
The VOT does not set people free to "go and serve and love the Lord" with joy, forgiveness and peace. The VOT tries to change people from the mind with bitterness and the wickedness of others. With hurt, and wrong, and evil. Is it any wonder that those who are made disciples through their efforts are so horrible and hideous. The VOT chains them to all the spiritual vices, which they feel JUSTIFIED in having.
The VOT is just another bitter screed from exes who are sitting in great darkness; "whom the god of this world hath blinded" so that they cannot recieve the truth.
Such a website is nothing more than a toilet into which the collective ex-2x2 anus may deposit its dark, fecal matter; theology devoid of goodness; love, peace, forgiveness and joy - absorbed by the fleshy intestine of bitterness.
1/25/08:
Underlying the TMB is a deep vein of relish that the Friends and Workers get hacked-and-slashed without reprieve. It amazes me to think there was a time when I felt any affection for the exes - the TMB however, has clarified the matter brilliantly: exes are, as we have been told, bitter folks.
1/26/08:
Hard as it is to believe, I think I'm actually in a better position to know whether I think freedom of speech is a nuisance than you are. I am the infallible expert when it comes to my own views. When I inform you that you are wrong on this issue; but when you persist that you are right, I think you lose a lot of credibility.
Your 300 posts, all of which fall into the same category; showing the same methodologies; and clustered around the same purpose of attacking individuals rather than discussing anything of substance, give me a powerful body of evidence upon which to base my knowledge.
I take one glance over the 300 odd posts you have contributed, not one of which was an original thought - all of which have been persecutory attacks. My only consolation is that sooner than later you will consume yourself.
2/3/08:
I am discussing this issue on a theological and philsophical (even ethical) basis. I don't know what you're doing, but feel as though your level of insight is a bit... well, economical.
2/1/08:
I have challenged exes to defend their position, and they cannot. They resort to abuse - remember, abuse is the sign of a failed argument.
2/5/08:
Well there's professing people and there's professing people. All the exes once professed. Now they are apostates.
What unmitigated tripe.
Don't try and assume virtues you don't possess - eg. "openness to reason".
2/7/08:
I have learned that interacting with many exes in a fair and rational way is impossible. They have too many emotional problems; a need for attention, power, revenge or self-confidence (take your pick) which can only be satisfied through pursuit of the Friends and the Workers under the guise of a holy crusade. Bringing any harm to us; unravelling our beliefs in any way; and getting anyone out of the Fellowship is the goal. But exes like Cherie Kropp \ Berry \ Whatever are in deep. Their activities are responsible for people becoming atheists and agnostics. And no matter how exes screech in ungodly and unrighteous indignation about this, it is true. And because it is true, they are most savage. The fruit of Cherie's work - and that of her disciples - is to send some people to a lost eternity. As for the rest who are allegedly converted to the "real Christ", their dearth of worthwhile fruits: forgiveness, love, joy and peace is a testimony to what they have been converted with. As some theologian (I forget which) once said, "What you convert them WITH, you convert them TO". And Cherie has converted many with a string of mockery, abuse, innuendo, muckraking and evil speakings. And it is to these things that her disciples have been converted. Cherie's shoes are dirty, and her hands are bloody. There is much she is responsible for, and she bears a heavy burden for her labour - the eternal souls of the (now) damned.
Feigned Innocence and other delusions
1/28/08:
The difference between my assertions and your claims, is that what I say is provable and self-evidently true, whereas your claims are a species of speculation; assumption of a god-like insight into other people's souls...
On the other hand, my assertions are indisputable fact.
1/29/08:
I'm sorry for the nastiness and the role I have played in it. I offer no excuse or self-justification. I have been wrong. And I have acted totally inappropriately. [even though GIT never stops]
2/3/08:
When a man speaks with judgement and self-righteousness, he speaks his native language because inwardly he is morally deficient and therefore needs to assume virtues by pretence.
2/5/08:
I am used to be confused with other people - all the sins of the world I bear upon my shoulders!
I am accustomed to being misread, having outrageous lines drawn between imaginary dots without the slightest evidence from my posts,
The difference between my assertions and your claims, is that what I say is provable and self-evidently true, whereas your claims are a species of speculation; assumption of a god-like insight into other people's souls...
On the other hand, my assertions are indisputable fact.
1/29/08:
I'm sorry for the nastiness and the role I have played in it. I offer no excuse or self-justification. I have been wrong. And I have acted totally inappropriately. [even though GIT never stops]
2/3/08:
When a man speaks with judgement and self-righteousness, he speaks his native language because inwardly he is morally deficient and therefore needs to assume virtues by pretence.
2/5/08:
I am used to be confused with other people - all the sins of the world I bear upon my shoulders!
I am accustomed to being misread, having outrageous lines drawn between imaginary dots without the slightest evidence from my posts,
The Tattler
12/21/07:
I wish to advise you that I have informed EchoPress that I am taking legal action for slander, unless this post is removed from their servers.
1/26/08:
I have since reported it to Proboards who are now requesting direct links to personally harassing posts; and threats of blackmail. Rest assured, I'm going to follow up with Proboards!
2/5/08:
I never said I had a court case against Echo Press over an exe impersonating me. You know this, but continue to peddle such a fiction.
I wish to advise you that I have informed EchoPress that I am taking legal action for slander, unless this post is removed from their servers.
1/26/08:
I have since reported it to Proboards who are now requesting direct links to personally harassing posts; and threats of blackmail. Rest assured, I'm going to follow up with Proboards!
2/5/08:
I never said I had a court case against Echo Press over an exe impersonating me. You know this, but continue to peddle such a fiction.
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